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Kif
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Quite the opposite, I paid Microsoft a lot of $$$$ to buy a SP3, touch keyboard, and docking station. Windows 8.1 is pretty customizable so you can pretty much work around Metro if it's not your flavor. I'm personally moving the other direction and trying to shift more towards Metro since it suites my preferences
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pvc
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Thanks you indeed. I was thinking about looking for a comprehensive list like this, and here it is.
When you think about it, isn't it all about money. When enough of these Surfaces get out sold, the demand will increase for good quality metro apps. I think we all can agree that desktop apps that are rebuilt as a metro app, work better and take more advantage of the Surface hybrid computer features. I haven't had an orgasm over the metro blocks interface (start page) but perhaps as time goes by all true metro apps will make better use of these blocks. Desktop apps certainly don't. Right now I wouldn't mind having my the metro front end look and play like the desktop.
Designing heavy weight metro apps must not be easy. I think Microsoft has been at rebuilding Office into a metro app for several years now and still haven't completed it. So perhaps heavy weight apps take a lot of time and that's why we don't see a metro Firefox or Chrome. Maybe their aren't any good high level programing tools out yet for building a metro app. I think it's way too early to kill metro yet. I guess when you think about it IE11 is the only killer heavy weight metro app around.
Designing heavy weight metro apps must not be easy. I think Microsoft has been at rebuilding Office into a metro app for several years now and still haven't completed it. So perhaps heavy weight apps take a lot of time and that's why we don't see a metro Firefox or Chrome. Maybe their aren't any good high level programing tools out yet for building a metro app. I think it's way too early to kill metro yet. I guess when you think about it IE11 is the only killer heavy weight metro app around.
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"Thanks you indeed. I was thinking about looking for a comprehensive list like this, and here it is."
The sad thing about it, as much as we all hate popups and ads, the Internet probably wouldn't be free if ads weren't part of browsing the Internet and websites. What I hate or the roll over popup ads. They drive me crazy and or many times hard to avoid accidentally rolling over them. I've even run across some that block what you're trying to view and don't have a way to exit them.
The sad thing about it, as much as we all hate popups and ads, the Internet probably wouldn't be free if ads weren't part of browsing the Internet and websites. What I hate or the roll over popup ads. They drive me crazy and or many times hard to avoid accidentally rolling over them. I've even run across some that block what you're trying to view and don't have a way to exit them.
Yeah really office only has four to six functions... Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote and a selection of Outlook, Access, Publisher... with sundry add-ins. should only take two weeks tops.
Office 13 already works perfectly with touch, and yeah, Microsoft isn't in Surface for straight profit. They make Surface to demonstrate what can be done with Windows, and to expand their brand to more areas. Like XBOX, they don't do that for the money either.
As far as I know metro apps are designed in wpf; I know wpf. I'm planning on finding out how hard it really is to write metro apps.
You can write Metro apps in WPF, but you can also write them in HTML5 and javascript. The biggest thing coming from a WPF background is that it is using a different framework. Instead of .net it is WinRT and that takes a little getting used to. Plus a number of WPF elements are not available in WinRT.
I also come from a WPF background and I started working on my first Metro app. What I found the most difficult is the design constraints. Microsoft has released a 300+ page document of "best practices" for the Metro apps. This ensures that all of the apps look similar, which is a plus for the consumer, but a negative for the developer. The problem is that the UI is unique to the Metro platform so porting existing iOS or android apps is more difficult because you still have to make a number of UI changes to conform to the Microsoft way. This adds to time of the project and ultimately the cost which is why I believe Metro is not taking off as quickly as it could.
Just my .02...
Mike
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pvc
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The first challenge I faced doing a sample project was that license agreement pop up you get when you load up a metro project in visual studio. I don't see myself clicking yes on that; instead of sucking up to the development community (like apple did), they throw feces at us. "Some data is sent over" read our privacy statement. No, thanks.
On another note, I got the keyboard cover, and I have to say, it's amazingly good. What a world of difference this thing makes. And it is so much better than the 1st and 2nd generation covers I had used in the past. My only concern is that I can see some light coming through from the top-left side of the touchpad, and I am not sure if that's normal or a manufacturing defect.
