In Western markets, styli are definitely most useful only for specialty purposes--illustration and design arts and certain engineering fields, for example. Limited audiences. In the Eastern markets, I expect styli/pen input is much more popular due to the two biggest non-alphabetic languages, Chinese (characters) and Japanese (kanji). No matter how fancy various keyboard inputs have evolved for those languages, nothing is faster than handwriting with smart conversion software.
That said, I read a little bit about how the Tegra non-digitizer tech works. It's definitely not an active digitizer as we know it. Looks interesting. I wonder what other issues are at stake when considering these technologies: Would enabling the Tegra4 cause greater power drain? An active digitizer is often licensed from Wacom--how much does that cost and does that affect power drain as well? How much did Sony spend to develop the tech on the Xperia Z Ultra?
On the plus side, the fact that Tegra4 has this capability built-in means MS didn't pay more for it above the actual processor already, so perhaps it will be a matter of time before the option is enabled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjwgWXGlc-g
Hey oion, have you seen the video demo on youtube?
Code:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjwgWXGlc-g
The Tegra4 supports the Stylus through physics, and I asked Panos Panay about it on Sunday, his reply that it isn't enabled as they were going for simple, but he didn't rule out enabling it in the future. I will say that the Surface 2 is an amazing machine, it is blazingly fast. I really enjoyed playing with it.
I cancelled my pre-order for Surface 2 when I saw that post. It does not make sense to me, if you are trying to make your product shine that you would not use all the capabilities of the product... The Tegra Note that will sells for 199.00 enabled the feature. Not that I would buy an Android tablet. I was really looking forward to the Surface 2, the hardware is very appealing... This will be my first tablet purchase. I already have a I7 laptop so I do not need a 900 dollar tablet. I am looking for something for web surfing, reading, taking notes and other lightweight operations that I know I do not need full blown windows for. Now I am looking toward a bay trail product that has palm detection. Hopefully they will release drivers for direct stylus I think it would increase the draw to the tablet.
I was not comparing them side by side, just the fact that a 199.00 piece of hardware enabled a software feature that a 449.00 piece of hardware did not, thus far.
I was not comparing them side by side, just the fact that a 199.00 piece of hardware enabled a software feature that a 449.00 piece of hardware did not, thus far.
I pre-ordered the Surface 2 when I found out it had a Tegra 4 thinking that they would for sure have it enabled.
I have to agree with you, and the reasoning that Microsoft would not enable a compelling feature intentionally to make sure the Surface wouldn't encroach on the superiority of the pro is just silly. Of course Microsoft has made some foolish moves in regards to marketing the Surface line. Still it seems far more reasonable that although the capability is there Microsoft couldn't yet build the proper support into RT. It simply might not play nice with the software. If they had enabled it, and even just for OneNote, I would be buying a Surface 2 in a heartbeat even knowing it won't yet compare to the Wacom technology. For now I don't see any compelling reason not to keep my original Surface.
Sometimes it isn't the particular feature itself that is THE issue, but one of "the final straw"... Often times I'll buy a device that has many of the features I want. But there's always something missing. Sometimes it takes just "one more thing" to be the deal breaker.I don't disagree that enabling DirectStylus would be great (I'd certainly love it), but the poster's rationale that "cheap tablet has it and MS didn't enable, even though I didn't care about pen input when I preordered Surface 2, but now I will cancel" is extremely weak. If he actually made an error based on, for example, Microsoft's commercial that combined the two products and he wanted the pen, that's one thing, but the logic that went into his decision-making here is counter-intuitive and more symptomatic of poor consumer buying practices.
In other words, unless he originally WANTED pen input, then this situation doesn't matter at all for his use case. Buy into your use case--that's all that matters.
Sometimes it isn't the particular feature itself that is THE issue, but one of "the final straw"... Often times I'll buy a device that has many of the features I want. But there's always something missing. Sometimes it takes just "one more thing" to be the deal breaker.
Love the Surface RT. It does so many things extremely well and things that other tablets can't do. But the inability to use even a capacity stylus on it is really sad. (I know that you guys were talking about active stylus support) I really can't use the RT (or Surface 2) as a tablet for handwriting, drawing, diagraming.