ctitanic
Well-Known Member
I have it set to defrag and optimize automatically weekly and never had any problem.
Any tips to reduce or prevent the fan from starting up
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Zog1971
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Let me rephrase......."Things that make our i7 fans BLOW".
ctitanic
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I see, you are having a lot of fun with your i7!Let me rephrase......."Things that make our i7 fans BLOW".
Zog1971
Active Member
For the most part, I really am. It still may go back for an i5, but I'm gonna give it a little more time. The issues I have had I have been able to resolve and in normal use and in the programs I use it for in Adobe, it has been a speedy dream and no fan/heat issues. Time will tell.......I see, you are having a lot of fun with your i7!
It must be catching... I'm not talkin to you anymore...
After three reboots... I seems I am back to a quiescent point.
My main external monitor was misdetected which made it look like a new monitor
Reboot
Monitor ok now but can't click on anything and launch it, corners are not active can't get charms
Did ctrl alt del from kybd tried to launch task manager ... no joy ... managed to tab to the power icon and shutdown.
Reboot
Now system, and system interrupts taking 25% CPU. - also have CSICLIENT running and an IE task even though I didn't launch it.
Reboot
There's something wrong with Windows 8.1 - NFR
After three reboots... I seems I am back to a quiescent point.
My main external monitor was misdetected which made it look like a new monitor
Reboot
Monitor ok now but can't click on anything and launch it, corners are not active can't get charms
Did ctrl alt del from kybd tried to launch task manager ... no joy ... managed to tab to the power icon and shutdown.
Reboot
Now system, and system interrupts taking 25% CPU. - also have CSICLIENT running and an IE task even though I didn't launch it.
Reboot
There's something wrong with Windows 8.1 - NFR
ctitanic
Well-Known Member
Time to refresh...
I just did ... on Wednesday.
What does indexing do?
Pure Gold! +1000
hertsjoatmon
Member
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong my my understanding from researching in to SSDs is that defragging your SSD does nothing to improve the performance. It does how ever add several cycles to the sectors in question and as such reduces the lifespan of your device. How much it is reduced is debatable, but for next to no benefit I'm not going to take the risk
Again someone can correct me if my understandng is wrong, but indexing is just a way for windows to increase the speed of your search results when trying to find files through search. Rather than searching through your entire hard drive, it searches through the index to find what it is you are searching for.
leeshor
Well-Known Member
Windows 7 or 8, installed on an SSD, understands that it is an SSD during the install process and makes adjustments to the way it uses the drive. This is not the case if the OS has been cloned from a standard hard disk.
The general rule of thumb on Windows 7 and 8 installed on a hard drive was not to defrag it even on a hard disk. Both OSs take care of regular maintenance in the background during idle time. It does this a little differently from a normal defrag but it does a decent job in order to use the files more efficiently.
On an SSD you should not defrag fore the reasons already stated as it will mostly wear the drive unnecessarily. Also most SSD tools will disable indexing and prefetches, (there is also a super fetch), for some of the same reasons, and they were intended to speed up a regular hard disk. That performance improvement is not required on an SSD.
The general rule of thumb on Windows 7 and 8 installed on a hard drive was not to defrag it even on a hard disk. Both OSs take care of regular maintenance in the background during idle time. It does this a little differently from a normal defrag but it does a decent job in order to use the files more efficiently.
On an SSD you should not defrag fore the reasons already stated as it will mostly wear the drive unnecessarily. Also most SSD tools will disable indexing and prefetches, (there is also a super fetch), for some of the same reasons, and they were intended to speed up a regular hard disk. That performance improvement is not required on an SSD.
the1spicymeatbal
New Member
Just FYI, Windows 8 and beyond know when you have an SSD, and it no longer attempts to defragment it, it only optimizes it (TRIM).
Think of defragmenting as a 2 step process: identifying empty space(TRIM), then physically moving everything around to compact the amount of empty space to minimize head movement in the future.
Well an SSD does not have a head- that's why it's so fast. So moving the data around becomes pointless. It is still useful, however to tell the SSD what space is no longer used, so that it can write over it care-free. This first step of defragmenting is now called a TRIM command.
A TRIM command tells the SSD which parts of the drive are now considered "deleted", so it can continue day to day operations without having the overhead of trying to figure out what space it can use and what space is holding actual data. This operation does not "use up" any of the drive's usable life.
So you'll notice that Windows has changed a lot of the wording on the "Defragment" screen to now say "Optimize".....
Now you know why.
Think of defragmenting as a 2 step process: identifying empty space(TRIM), then physically moving everything around to compact the amount of empty space to minimize head movement in the future.
Well an SSD does not have a head- that's why it's so fast. So moving the data around becomes pointless. It is still useful, however to tell the SSD what space is no longer used, so that it can write over it care-free. This first step of defragmenting is now called a TRIM command.
A TRIM command tells the SSD which parts of the drive are now considered "deleted", so it can continue day to day operations without having the overhead of trying to figure out what space it can use and what space is holding actual data. This operation does not "use up" any of the drive's usable life.
So you'll notice that Windows has changed a lot of the wording on the "Defragment" screen to now say "Optimize".....
Now you know why.
