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  1. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    Sounds about like mine. Single threaded turbo may push that up to 90-92c, but still well within spec. Hope it holds up for you, The laptop is a BEAST of a machine! If MS backpedals on the whole "max performance = battery discharge" thing, It could easily blow away most mid-line gaming...
  2. Seneleron

    SB 2 15" Review

    If I set a black wallpaper and hide the taskbar, there is just a little on the top LH side. The whole thing has a little bit of a very faint mostly uniform glow around the rest of it, and on the bottom it looks ever so faintly "wrinkled" for lack of a better term. I'd consider that just about...
  3. Seneleron

    SB 2 15" Review

    No light bleed on mine either, now that I double check it.
  4. Seneleron

    SB 2 15" Review

    So I've had my book 2 for about a week now, thought I'd leave some initial impressions and thoughts on performance and overall usability for those who may come across this website while deciding whether or not to pick up one of the new Book 2s. Skimming over build quality, the SB2 feels as...
  5. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    When I mouse over the battery indicator all I get is battery %. There's always: Download BatteryBar for Free
  6. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    What "Theveterans" said. Also, I highly suggest trying Intel XTU as well, as you not only get a temp graph and CPU frequency readout, but it also shows thermal, power limit, and current plus real time CPU voltage, etc. Not that there's anything WRONG with Aida 64, mind you, but XTU really...
  7. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    I honestly never would have suspected it myself if Dolan's screenshot hadn't shown a peak of 1.396v, and his testing with intel XTU that wouldn't let him undervolt at all without instability. If the system requires that much voltage to remain stable, that *HAS* to mean there's an issue with at...
  8. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    I suspect they got a bad yield somewhere. I actually replied to your comment on the notebookreview forums [as Mindinversion] The big problem here is that it's not like a hardware defect that can be traced in testing, as the chip actually WORKS-- but they're not binning them the way they should...
  9. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    That verifies my thoughts and MS' conclusions. Let us know how the new unit works... hopefully it was just a random one off. Yea, that's where I am too. It doesn't really do it with the few games I play, and apparently it'll only happen if it's set to max performance anyway, so my only real...
  10. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    99% of people won't notice this: First because most of them will never realize there's a power slider [default set to max battery] and second because the use case has to be VERY specific in order to get it to happen [at least with the stock charger] Gaming in max performance I didn't...
  11. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    The main problem in Dolan's case is not power, it's thermals. He's hitting 100c and temp throttling, not voltage limiting to keep the battery from draining. On mine, it has maxed out at 90c, which is hot but within tJunct limits. The other thing to remember is that MS has said it'll draw...
  12. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    The old fan on the back trick ^^ Actually a good video for baseline data. Granted, the 15" version 8650u is configured differently and has active cooling [plus additional room for passive cooling] But it does give a nice baseline on how MS kinda designed the book 2 and how the chip is...
  13. Seneleron

    First Surface Book 2 unboxing

    Microsoft's Surface Book 2 has a power problem If it's okay, I'm going to leave this here as well. I haven't noticed this with the STOCK charger but I did witness this first hand with the dock.
  14. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    1.396v! That's getting into the upper limits of DESKTOP CPU overclocking MAXIMUM voltage O.O If the system is pushing voltages up that high to keep turbo clocks stable, I'm going to say that would indicate a borderline faulty CPU [again, in desktop circles we'd say it's badly binned, or "you...
  15. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    FWIW I could see a bad paste job or a slightly misaligned heat sync pushing the 8650u over the edge. . . I've managed to get one core to 90c so far in a few simple HoTS matches [output to a 165Hz 2k monitor at native res max settings. . . actually ran REALLY well] And just to mention it though...
  16. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    Right now I'm seeing 50-51c idling in Hwmonitor with just Edge open, though the back of the display only feels slightly warm, temps keep peeking up to the 70c range in fits and starts. Of course, I've been setting up the machine all afternoon, loading updates, programs. . . and they always seem...
  17. Seneleron

    Why is everyone crying about Thunderbolt 3?

    The thing is: USB-Type C *ISN'T* useless, uses the exact same port, but has between 1/8 to 1/4 the maximum throughput of TB3. Forgive me for using an Apple euphamism on a MS hardware board, but it's like the iPhone X supporting fast charging, but not including fast charging hardware in the...
  18. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    Just got fall creator's and 1709 update installed and cleaned up, loaded some Overwatch, and my fans are working as designed: they kick up to full after awhile. Definitely sounds like something specific to that unit, or something going wrong with the install.
  19. Seneleron

    CPU Throttling on 15 inch Surface Book 2 after 1709?

    A few basic things to check: Make sure you're set to best performance [left click the battery icon] and/or make sure in the power profile it wasn't set to passive cooling. You can also try "surface diagnostic toolkit" on the windows store... There's no way of knowing if the new SB2 is...
  20. Seneleron

    First Surface Book 2 unboxing

    Thank you. Something about iJustine just makes me cringe...
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